P/F charts

[larrybird]

Have the bugs been worked out in the P/F
charts? I was told they would be soon (7.2),
but not for 7.3 Has it made this release?

[AndyS]

Hi Larry,

I assume you're talking about the PnF in Advanced Charts? I had to check with our product manager as I didn't recall any open "bugs" that we have reported.

He did mention that there are some desired features / enhancements being requested that we have plans on adding to the program, however it doesn't look like those are gonna make it into 7.4. They have been pushed to 8.0, which is tentatively scheduled for the fall.

If you are talking about a bug or bugs, could you be specific on what they are so that I can check?

Thanks,
Andy

[larrybird]

this issue is not resolve. For example,
using daily data for AIG, a box size of 1 and
a reversal of 3.

You are not properly drawing the chart. Note
the many cases where only 1 or 2 X/O are
drawn (minimum would be 3), as well as
the failure to plot all X/O in a column.

At the time I reported this last year I was
told it was a known issue and would be
resolved 'relatively soon'. In addtion, I was
told that I should not even assume that the
pivots from X to O column are correct, that
the whole algorithm may be bad.

[AndyS]

Hi Larry,

Just a quick note to let you know I'm working on this. Will update shortly.

Thanks,
Andy

[allesim]

Point and Figure charts BUGS

Dear esignal

Unfortunately there are two major bugs on PnF charts, which are so serious that I went back to MANUAL CHARTING !

1.
PnF (Point and Figure) makes eSignal crash or freeze, if run in Tick mode (not yet fixed in 7.4, I tested)

2.
PnF running in daily mode are fine, but running in Intraday mode are showing a pattern which is wrong.

My attached file to explain this bug were rejected (1MB size) so i posted in my open group:

http://share.esignal.com/groupcontents.jsp?groupid=181

Thanks and plese reply
Simone

[AndyS]

Hi Simone,

Thanks for the information and snapshots. I'll get this to our engineers for review.

When I have a more definitive answer as to what we find and when we'll be able to correct this, I'll post here.

Regards,
Andy

[AndyS]

Hi All,

I have huddled with our product manager & engineers. We see the problem and will determine the best course of action to correct. At this point, I don't have an eta as to when that will be.

I appreciate the post on this thread in helping us determine this problem.

Thanks,
Andy

[cwhitak]

I am doing a trial on eSignal and my requirement is P&F charts on intraday basis.

As already noted, the intraday P&F charts in eSignal are useless. I've seen in another thread that a fix isn't on the table until v8.

We're not talking about a minor bug with a simple work around. This is an advertised, marketed, and released feature which fails completely on an intraday basis and there is no workaround.

A lot of floor traders use P&F charts. Its a basic feaure that many vendors provide (futuresource, S&P comstock, Reuters, etc). It would be nice if product management would concider giving it a little more priority and get P&F charts working in eSignal also.

[allesim]

PnF new algorith

Yes I agree with you

For me PnF is even more than a trading vehicle.
Therefore I have developed a visul basic INTRADAY algorith, which I use now, but of course it is not streaming, so useless, except for backtesting.

see here:

http://forum.esignal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2635

I hope eSignal staff contact me and i will share this algoritm for free, hoping they will implement soon, in a beta realease, certainly NOT IN 8.0 edition, due in 2004!

Thanks and hope the best
allesim

Simone Allegrezza

[allesim]

PnF here example & charts for today 0620 Friday

I have uploaded charts for today 0620 friday

http://share.esignal.com/groupcontents.jsp?folder=&groupid=181

the first one is generated by eSignal (totally uncorrect)
the second one is generated by my application, using eSignal (Playback Downloader) Times & Sales

Please let me have your opinion
[email protected]
allesim

[point1pc]

Are PnF Charts now correct?

This input was posted by Larry back in April:

"You are not properly drawing the chart. Note
the many cases where only 1 or 2 X/O are
drawn (minimum would be 3), as well as
the failure to plot all X/O in a column.

At the time I reported this last year I was
told it was a known issue and would be
resolved 'relatively soon'. In addtion, I was
told that I should not even assume that the
pivots from X to O column are correct, that
the whole algorithm may be bad."

In the current release of Esignal's advanced charting, has this
been resolved?

JF

[ScottJ]

point1pc,

PnF charts are, in some ways, still a work in progress. We are in the process of implementing some improvements and have set-up this thread to solicit specific feedback as we prepare for changes in 7.5 and 8.0

Thanks.

[Swingie]

A few months later and still the same problems Simone already pinpointed.
PnF charts with Esignal call white black!

[JayF]

Re: Are PnF Charts now correct?

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Originally posted by point1pc
In the current release of Esignal's advanced charting, has this
been resolved?

JF

FYI, in the 7.5 Beta 1 this feature is now available.