Can ya speed up 6.0?

[rjaenisch]

Take something like the SP index and input 30 min, 45 min and 130 min charts. See how long it takes until you get a chart. Qcharts 5 is about 5 times faster.

[mjenk]

speed??

I am sure anyone using 6.0 now from 5.0 is just a little dissapointed with the slow down. I have multible moniters (6) and use a 34,55,233,daily,weekly charts along with 300 syms. Please keep 5.0 until 6 is completely fixed, I know you guru's are working hard at it so keep up the good work.

[JimRutherford]

Can ya speed up 6.0?

I would like to echo the sentiment below. Working in IT as my day job, I fully understand the challenges involved with a major rewrite of an application as complex as QCharts. However, with that said, I continue to download and test drive each release of QC6 and at this time I will also remain on 5.1 until either 6 improves or I am forced off of 5.1

I also run a weekly, daily, 233, 55 and 34 chart workspace with a little over 300 symbols on a dual screen system and the chart refreshes when changing between tickers are much too time consuming for me to work with. I had to finally fully abandon 6.1 last evening when several of my charts refused to repopulate on some symbols while stepping through my quote sheets.

By the way, I also use a laptop with the same charts but only about 30 or so symbols and my experience is similar. QC 5.1 is much faster.

Keep up the good work, I'm sure you'll get there. Looking forward to the next version of 6.

Regards

Jim

[hardtaill]

I'm using 6.0.1.2 almost exclusively now. The only time I boot 5.1 is to check an occasional Short Interest or VWAP. I'm noticing only small delays in chart fills and the program works equaly well on my 3.2ghz and 1.1ghz laptops. The delays increase slightly towards the end of the trading session, but that is expected. It seems that 12 charts and 13 portfolios, as well as 380 or more symbols won't slow it down. While 6.0 may not be ready for the public quite yet, it is a very remarkable program and I look forward to having it run solely off the Esignal feed on the 28th if that date is still on the agenda.

Thank you Mike and Jay for all the hard work you do and the efforts put into making QCharts even better than it has been in the past.


'Tail.

[ahhaha]

The program is slow because it has a memory leak or fails to do proper garbage collection of created objects. This has been discussed in this forum and was presumably fixed in the latest version, but it wasn't.

[ahhaha]

Adding more detail to my previous post, try running the program without intervention. You'll find that the program grows using more and more resources. What's happening is the program is storing data in its objects, say, stocks you have in your screen lists. It is doing this in order to push data onto your computer so that it doesn't need to call the server for a refresh. This is how the programmers are getting rid of server overload. Some solution. It is doomed to make the program useless, since it is difficult, if not possible, to selectively destroy, or garbage collect no longer used daily data.

There's a better way. Clean the core feed of its useless ECN generated phantom bids and asks. These atomic actions in the trace can't be acted upon, so they have no information. Nonetheless, the Holy-than Thou types think they must keep this garbage in order to worship the sanctity of data ideal. They're hypocrites.

Another way to solve the over load problem is to reduce the silly, pet, useless, counter productive, technical analysis tools. They hurt everyone to satisfy a few who get negative value out of them even though they believe otherwise. Do you see that tool bar with all the parallel line icons? It borders on the laughably ludicrous and shows the programmers have NO mathematics background. None of those line drawers are effective decision mechanisms.

If you people want to keep yourselves fooled into believing that Donkey Channels will be of value, then you must be agreeable to a compromise of the functionality of the whole program. Thus, 6.0.xx is doomed to self destruct. Brilliant. Almost on MSFT's level(well , they are making a lot of munnee).

[hardtaill]

Ahhaha,

You are mistaken about a few things. Most of what you say that is useless is actually quite rewarding. Using some, but not all of your "counter productive, technical analysis tools" nets me between 50% and 300% per year in ROI. I use just a few of them and rely much more on other data from 6.0 which I won't discuss here.

You have become part of a community which has, and makes, considerable wealth by using the tools available. Some, obviously, know how to use some tools better than others. "One man's garbage is another man's gold". My 300% per year ROI, and sometimes 400%, happens because of the "tools" available. But, I guess, you have to apply them properly in order to achieve your goals.

I'm looking forward to hearing positive things from you in the future. Things that will increase your income while helping to build an even better program.

I, for one, enjoy my yearly increases because of the available data and have learned how to use the "tools" properly.

Apply yourself and immerse yourself into it. I'm sure you'll notice things you've overlooked.

'Tail.

[ahhaha]

Thanks for the proof of one of my claims.

Why not make counter arguments to my technical claims? If they're valid, soon enough you won't have a workable program to make all those $gadzillions.

[hardtaill]

Oh, contrair, Ahhaha,

You see, I'm already using 6.0 during the day and right up 'til close. And, I'm already making those "$gadzillions". I'm having no trouble at all. And, thank you for your concern. No, really. Thank you.

'Tail.

[WhoLovesYa]

Originally posted by hardtaill
I'm using 6.0.1.2 almost exclusively now. The only time I boot 5.1 is to check an occasional Short Interest or VWAP.

'Tail.

Thats funny cause the short interest is from Feb. Hope that information is useful to you.

FYI I cant use 6.0.1.2 because as soon as the market opens it pegs my computer to 100% cpu and locks up like QC used to do when Lycos took over. And thats after I stripped out my symbols to about 100 and am only using one chart with about 4 MA. Its totally useless to me.

[hardtaill]

The Short Interest is a little newer than that, as I check it againtst free sites from time to time.

I'm using 12 charts (10, 60, Daily, Weekly, Monthly and Emini. Also, six more (10 minute) reflecting the 5 or six stocks I choose to be in overnight. Then there is the 14 portfolios, some options (which actually consume more bandwidth that stock symbols) and stock symbols. Then there's a single quote, Time and Sales and Streaming News. Total symbol counts vary daily and average about 390 to 420.

6.0 runs really well for me, and it's pretty rare that I have to reboot, but then I had to reboot from time to time with 5.1 as well.

Nothing spectacular with my machines: a 1.1ghz and 3.2ghz. Both laptops.

It's a nice program.

[mjenk]

I am not knocking the hard work put into Qcharts, I am no techy neither, but there is a issue, I have five friends that run exactly what I do and all of them have from 1.8g-3.2g pcs with enough video cards for 4-6 moniters and when they try to run 6.0 the lag time with changing syms is much longer. I dont see where you may have stated that you run more then 1 moniter, you most likey do.but I sure would like to think some one knows about the issue and looking for the fix.

Originally posted by hardtaill
The Short Interest is a little newer than that, as I check it againtst free sites from time to time.

I'm using 12 charts (10, 60, Daily, Weekly, Monthly and Emini. Also, six more (10 minute) reflecting the 5 or six stocks I choose to be in overnight. Then there is the 14 portfolios, some options (which actually consume more bandwidth that stock symbols) and stock symbols. Then there's a single quote, Time and Sales and Streaming News. Total symbol counts vary daily and average about 390 to 420.

6.0 runs really well for me, and it's pretty rare that I have to reboot, but then I had to reboot from time to time with 5.1 as well.

Nothing spectacular with my machines: a 1.1ghz and 3.2ghz. Both laptops.

It's a nice program.

[Larry Marchman]

'Tail...and other's following this thread

I'm knee deep, if not neck deep in the middle of a project right now, and don't have time to provide the details on why 'Tail's workspace creates such a low load. Other folks have more complex and more demanding workspaces and multiple monitors ('Tail is laptop) that already create a significant load under 5.1. Then with the greater %CPU hit(1) in 6.0 vs 5.1 (a factor more than some may realize), they then have very real and legitimate %CPU issues trying to run that same workspace in 6.0. As a quick example, if a user experiences a 20% CPU hit in 5.1, and the ratio of QC6 vs QC5 is 5X more CPU (a lowball figure here), then the math is simple...5 X 20 equals 100% pegged. I'll be back in a couple of days or so, Lord willin' and the creek don't rise, with something hopefully more useful.

The painting of a many bars wide 233 loaded with studies and MA's is a tad different than a little 10min chart with no studies and MA's, don't ya think.

LAM
(1) Some of the hit is legit...a greater number of ticks in the eSignal feed to process requiring more %CPU. But an equally, and perhaps larger hit is processing inefficiencies. And here's hoping that's the highest priority of the good folks in development.

[hardtaill]

On Wednesday, I'll put a load of studies on all 12 charts. Me thinks I'll still be daytrading.


'Tail.

[rigeco]

Jay, Mike C., and esig folks,
Is it possible that ahhaha's assessment has merit? If yes:

1.) what's the likelihood of a near-term solution?
2.) is it possible to delay the shutdown of 5.1 until a suitable resolution is reached?

I know you guys are under a lot of pressure, both from within and from us on this forum. You're creating a good product and your work and help are much appreciated.